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Weighing scales
I'm a fairly new member to the OCA (joined half 2025) and I didn't had much time to catch up.
I've been in the mailing and I see sometimes questions popping up & people helping eachother, which is great !
At the moment when you want a weighscale for the POS system for odoo EE a IOT is recommended and a ariva-S model.
These scales are sometimes too expensive for customers , did anyone else had success with other scales which also work with an IOT box or any other connection.
Mind you i'm looking for SaaS solutions also, so while i'm open to costume modules for other scales.
I'm also looking for scales that would work with SaaS enterprise solution.
Thank you all , and keep up the good work !
Sincerely
Kristof
by Kristof Gommers - 08:11 - 22 Jan 2026
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Re: Weighing scales
Hi!Check l10n_eu_iot_scale_cert.I only saw the internal message below on 25.09.2025, claiming that this was valid in all Europe.Dear colleagues,I’m pleased to share that we have received LNE certification for the use of scales in the Point of Sale. This certification applies to version 18.0 across all EU countries. While mandated by an EU directive, this was particularly important for countries such as France, Switzerland, and Germany.Our R&D team is already working on certifying version 19.0 as soon as possible.
Please note:
The module is not auto-installed; clients will need to install it themselves. See screenshot below.
This module certifies the Point of Sale with the LNE (Laboratoire national de métrologie et d’essais), which is a legal requirement in certain EU countries. It enforces specific settings and generates a checksum to ensure the code has not been tampered with.
Note that we are currently integrated only with Mettler Toledo scales using the 8217 communication protocol. To enable integration (so the weight is automatically recorded in Odoo), an IoT is required. We strongly recommend using the physical IoT rather than the virtual one, as the physical IoT includes the necessary drivers and interfaces. The virtual IoT relies on drivers installed on the client’s Windows PC.
Avec mes plus sincères salutations,Jean-Marc Vandel · AssociéLe 2026-02-09T09:46:48.000+01:00, Jan-Marten Veddeler <notifications@odoo-community.org> a écrit :Hi all
thanks @Laurence for this very helpful clarity that seems to settle the uncertainty for now at least for the German case, given you spoke directly with the German measuring authorities/Eichamt.
As I had written, my theory was" more a guess/feeling" from the bits and pieces of information that my last research on this had yielded, including some (shaky) statements of Odoo customer support like these
"I've looked into this and found that the certification is twofold: one being the software (Odoo), and the other being the hardware (scale manufacturer). Odoo is certified to weigh items, so one half is covered, but the hardware itself must also be covered."
As for for your surprise on any "legal or logical connection" between TSE and scale, this was a misunderstanding. I did not mean to suggest: From TSE certifications follows scale certification. I meant to suggest: If you use a TSE certified POS, and plugin a certified scale (which the Mettler Toledo Arriva S recommend by Odoo is, as a standalone scale), then your total setup may be Ok certification wise in terms of tax and weighing regulations. Your research shows: this is not the case, according to Eichamt, the whole systems needs to be certified together.
From a "common sense" perspective however (which risk is bigger: the human typing wrong from scale display, or the software grabbing the data wrong), and for smaller customers willing to take the legal risk (customers who may have multiple other non 100% compliant processes in their organisations given their small size and degree of professionalism), using these two "standalone certified components" (Odoo POS and scale) connected might still be an option some customers/Odoo users may chose to go for, having been warned about the legal risks and that the legally safe alternative would be the label printing workaround.
Thank you for this valuable contribution and clarity,
and joining you in the hope that regulations will be upgraded to 21st century
Jan
PS: As for the OCA Spring Sprint of the German Odoo community on April 23rd and 24th 2026: Warmely invited. More info here: https://odoo-community.org/event/spring-sprint-hamburg-2026-04-23-2026-04-24-213/register
Will also drop you a direct eMail on that.
On 2/4/2026 11:13 AM, Laurence Labusch wrote:
Hi all,
thanks Frederik for looping me in – happy to share what I know.
MY LAST OFFICIAL INFORMATION FROM ODOO:
About a year ago (maybe a bit less), I was told by Odoo that they were in the certification process for scales in Paris. Since then: radio silence. Nothing public, no announcement, no certificate number, nothing I could show to a customer or an authority. So as far as I'm concerned, the certification status is still "pending" at best.
WHAT THE GERMAN AUTHORITIES TOLD US:
We had direct conversations with the Eichamt (weights and measures authority) here in Germany, and they were very clear:
The ENTIRE SYSTEM needs to be certified and calibrated together:
- The scale itself
- The IoT box / communication layer
- The POS hardware
- The POS software
All of it. As one integrated, sealed system.
Now, if you know Odoo... that's almost impossible to achieve. Odoo's strength is flexibility – you can configure almost anything, install community modules, customize freely. And if you're on Odoo.sh or SaaS, you're getting continuous updates. That's the exact opposite of what calibration authorities want: a frozen, audited, unchangeable system.
REGARDING JAN'S THEORY (FISKALY TSE = SCALE OK?):
I would be EXTREMELY INTERESTED to hear more about what Jan found out, because frankly, I don't see how this could be correct.
The fiskaly TSE certification and scale/weighing certification are:
1. Two completely different legal frameworks – TSE is about fiscal compliance (GoBD, KassenSichV), weighing is about legal metrology (MessEG, MessEV, NAWI/MID directive)
2. Two completely different authorities – Finanzamt (tax office) vs. Eichamt (weights and measures office)
3. Two completely different purposes – One ensures tax transparency, the other ensures consumers aren't cheated on weight-based pricing
I don't see any legal or logical connection where certifying the cash register for tax purposes would automatically certify the weighing system for trade use. These authorities don't even talk to each other.
MY SUSPICION ABOUT THE DOCUMENTATION CHANGE:
Looking at the diff between Odoo 17.0 and 18.0 docs – yes, they removed the explicit warning about France, Germany, and Switzerland. But removing a warning from documentation is not the same as obtaining certification. I suspect this was a commercial/marketing decision rather than a reflection of any legal change.
If Odoo actually got certified somewhere, I would expect:
- A proper announcement
- A certificate number we can reference
- Updated documentation that says "certified in X countries" rather than just removing the negative statement
MY POSITION FOR CUSTOMERS:
Until I see an official certificate, I continue to advise customers in Germany to use the workaround: a standalone certified scale that prints labels with barcodes, which are then scanned into Odoo POS. Not elegant, but legally safe.
LOOKING FORWARD:
That said, I do think this whole situation is outdated for 2026. The current calibration laws were written for a world of standalone, unchanging devices – not cloud-connected, continuously updated software systems. I hope regulators will modernize this eventually, but that's a slow process.
Jan – if you have any concrete documentation or official statement that supports the "fiskaly = scale OK" theory, I'd genuinely love to see it. Maybe I'm missing something, and I'm always happy to be proven wrong if it means we can finally use integrated scales legally.
P.S.: Frederik, thanks for the hint about the Hamburg OCA Sprint – Jan-Marten, feel free to send me the details!
Best,
Laurence Labusch Geschäftsführer lala@labiso.de www.labiso.de +49 1525 4291514 Labiso GmbH · Von-Seckendorff-Platz 1 · 97539 Wonfurt 🎙️ Der ERP-Stammtisch Podcast
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Am 26.01.2026 um 10:20 schrieb Frederik Kramer <frederik.kramer@initos.com>:
Hi all,
well the latest i heard on this was from fellow Odooer Laurence Labusch (and his company Labiso GmbH). He has spent considerable time to narrow down that issue with the authorities and afaik it is still not allowed to use an electronic wheiging scale even if the POS itself is working according to the national standard which in Germany is implemented using fiskaly TSE unless the whole POS is certified with the weighing scale but maybe Laurence (which i am putting on copy can answer himself).
Best Frederik
P.S.: Jan-Marten maybe you can make Laurence aware of the Hamburg OCA Sprint ;-)
Am 26.01.26 um 10:12 schrieb Jan-Marten Veddeler:
My latest information (more a guess/feeling) from Odoo customer service (and some online research) on this was that if the POS is certified (like e.g. Odoo POS via fiscaly is in Germany), then the scale itself does not need to have an additional certification, and that this may explain why Odoo removed the below notice from its later documentation from v18 on
"Odoo is not certified in several countries, including France, Germany, and Switzerland. If you reside in one of these countries, you can still use a scale but without integration into your Odoo database. Alternatively, you can acquire a non-integrated certified scale that prints certified labels, which can then be scanned into your Odoo database."
Anyone has more clarity on this scale certification part in Germany or other EU countries?
Best
JanOn 1/26/2026 11:37 AM, hugues de keyzer wrote:
, to use a scale connected to a
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by Jean-Marc Vandel - 02:11 - 16 Feb 2026 -
Re: Weighing scales
Hi all
thanks @Laurence for this very helpful clarity that seems to settle the uncertainty for now at least for the German case, given you spoke directly with the German measuring authorities/Eichamt.
As I had written, my theory was" more a guess/feeling" from the bits and pieces of information that my last research on this had yielded, including some (shaky) statements of Odoo customer support like these
"I've looked into this and found that the certification is twofold: one being the software (Odoo), and the other being the hardware (scale manufacturer). Odoo is certified to weigh items, so one half is covered, but the hardware itself must also be covered."
As for for your surprise on any "legal or logical connection" between TSE and scale, this was a misunderstanding. I did not mean to suggest: From TSE certifications follows scale certification. I meant to suggest: If you use a TSE certified POS, and plugin a certified scale (which the Mettler Toledo Arriva S recommend by Odoo is, as a standalone scale), then your total setup may be Ok certification wise in terms of tax and weighing regulations. Your research shows: this is not the case, according to Eichamt, the whole systems needs to be certified together.
From a "common sense" perspective however (which risk is bigger: the human typing wrong from scale display, or the software grabbing the data wrong), and for smaller customers willing to take the legal risk (customers who may have multiple other non 100% compliant processes in their organisations given their small size and degree of professionalism), using these two "standalone certified components" (Odoo POS and scale) connected might still be an option some customers/Odoo users may chose to go for, having been warned about the legal risks and that the legally safe alternative would be the label printing workaround.
Thank you for this valuable contribution and clarity,
and joining you in the hope that regulations will be upgraded to 21st century
Jan
PS: As for the OCA Spring Sprint of the German Odoo community on April 23rd and 24th 2026: Warmely invited. More info here: https://odoo-community.org/event/spring-sprint-hamburg-2026-04-23-2026-04-24-213/register
Will also drop you a direct eMail on that.
On 2/4/2026 11:13 AM, Laurence Labusch wrote:
Hi all,
thanks Frederik for looping me in – happy to share what I know.
MY LAST OFFICIAL INFORMATION FROM ODOO:
About a year ago (maybe a bit less), I was told by Odoo that they were in the certification process for scales in Paris. Since then: radio silence. Nothing public, no announcement, no certificate number, nothing I could show to a customer or an authority. So as far as I'm concerned, the certification status is still "pending" at best.
WHAT THE GERMAN AUTHORITIES TOLD US:
We had direct conversations with the Eichamt (weights and measures authority) here in Germany, and they were very clear:
The ENTIRE SYSTEM needs to be certified and calibrated together:
- The scale itself
- The IoT box / communication layer
- The POS hardware
- The POS software
All of it. As one integrated, sealed system.
Now, if you know Odoo... that's almost impossible to achieve. Odoo's strength is flexibility – you can configure almost anything, install community modules, customize freely. And if you're on Odoo.sh or SaaS, you're getting continuous updates. That's the exact opposite of what calibration authorities want: a frozen, audited, unchangeable system.
REGARDING JAN'S THEORY (FISKALY TSE = SCALE OK?):
I would be EXTREMELY INTERESTED to hear more about what Jan found out, because frankly, I don't see how this could be correct.
The fiskaly TSE certification and scale/weighing certification are:
1. Two completely different legal frameworks – TSE is about fiscal compliance (GoBD, KassenSichV), weighing is about legal metrology (MessEG, MessEV, NAWI/MID directive)
2. Two completely different authorities – Finanzamt (tax office) vs. Eichamt (weights and measures office)
3. Two completely different purposes – One ensures tax transparency, the other ensures consumers aren't cheated on weight-based pricing
I don't see any legal or logical connection where certifying the cash register for tax purposes would automatically certify the weighing system for trade use. These authorities don't even talk to each other.
MY SUSPICION ABOUT THE DOCUMENTATION CHANGE:
Looking at the diff between Odoo 17.0 and 18.0 docs – yes, they removed the explicit warning about France, Germany, and Switzerland. But removing a warning from documentation is not the same as obtaining certification. I suspect this was a commercial/marketing decision rather than a reflection of any legal change.
If Odoo actually got certified somewhere, I would expect:
- A proper announcement
- A certificate number we can reference
- Updated documentation that says "certified in X countries" rather than just removing the negative statement
MY POSITION FOR CUSTOMERS:
Until I see an official certificate, I continue to advise customers in Germany to use the workaround: a standalone certified scale that prints labels with barcodes, which are then scanned into Odoo POS. Not elegant, but legally safe.
LOOKING FORWARD:
That said, I do think this whole situation is outdated for 2026. The current calibration laws were written for a world of standalone, unchanging devices – not cloud-connected, continuously updated software systems. I hope regulators will modernize this eventually, but that's a slow process.
Jan – if you have any concrete documentation or official statement that supports the "fiskaly = scale OK" theory, I'd genuinely love to see it. Maybe I'm missing something, and I'm always happy to be proven wrong if it means we can finally use integrated scales legally.
P.S.: Frederik, thanks for the hint about the Hamburg OCA Sprint – Jan-Marten, feel free to send me the details!
Best,
Laurence Labusch Geschäftsführer lala@labiso.de www.labiso.de +49 1525 4291514 Labiso GmbH · Von-Seckendorff-Platz 1 · 97539 Wonfurt 🎙️ Der ERP-Stammtisch Podcast
Höre unseren Odoo Podcast auf deiner bevorzugten Plattform:
Apple Podcasts Spotify RTL+ Deezer Website
Am 26.01.2026 um 10:20 schrieb Frederik Kramer <frederik.kramer@initos.com>:
Hi all,
well the latest i heard on this was from fellow Odooer Laurence Labusch (and his company Labiso GmbH). He has spent considerable time to narrow down that issue with the authorities and afaik it is still not allowed to use an electronic wheiging scale even if the POS itself is working according to the national standard which in Germany is implemented using fiskaly TSE unless the whole POS is certified with the weighing scale but maybe Laurence (which i am putting on copy can answer himself).
Best Frederik
P.S.: Jan-Marten maybe you can make Laurence aware of the Hamburg OCA Sprint ;-)
Am 26.01.26 um 10:12 schrieb Jan-Marten Veddeler:
My latest information (more a guess/feeling) from Odoo customer service (and some online research) on this was that if the POS is certified (like e.g. Odoo POS via fiscaly is in Germany), then the scale itself does not need to have an additional certification, and that this may explain why Odoo removed the below notice from its later documentation from v18 on
"Odoo is not certified in several countries, including France, Germany, and Switzerland. If you reside in one of these countries, you can still use a scale but without integration into your Odoo database. Alternatively, you can acquire a non-integrated certified scale that prints certified labels, which can then be scanned into your Odoo database."
Anyone has more clarity on this scale certification part in Germany or other EU countries?
Best
JanOn 1/26/2026 11:37 AM, hugues de keyzer wrote:
, to use a scale connected to a
--
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by Jan-Marten Veddeler. - 09:45 - 9 Feb 2026 -
Re: Weighing scales
Hi all,
thanks Frederik for looping me in – happy to share what I know.
MY LAST OFFICIAL INFORMATION FROM ODOO:
About a year ago (maybe a bit less), I was told by Odoo that they were in the certification process for scales in Paris. Since then: radio silence. Nothing public, no announcement, no certificate number, nothing I could show to a customer or an authority. So as far as I'm concerned, the certification status is still "pending" at best.
WHAT THE GERMAN AUTHORITIES TOLD US:
We had direct conversations with the Eichamt (weights and measures authority) here in Germany, and they were very clear:
The ENTIRE SYSTEM needs to be certified and calibrated together:
- The scale itself
- The IoT box / communication layer
- The POS hardware
- The POS software
All of it. As one integrated, sealed system.
Now, if you know Odoo... that's almost impossible to achieve. Odoo's strength is flexibility – you can configure almost anything, install community modules, customize freely. And if you're on Odoo.sh or SaaS, you're getting continuous updates. That's the exact opposite of what calibration authorities want: a frozen, audited, unchangeable system.
REGARDING JAN'S THEORY (FISKALY TSE = SCALE OK?):
I would be EXTREMELY INTERESTED to hear more about what Jan found out, because frankly, I don't see how this could be correct.
The fiskaly TSE certification and scale/weighing certification are:
1. Two completely different legal frameworks – TSE is about fiscal compliance (GoBD, KassenSichV), weighing is about legal metrology (MessEG, MessEV, NAWI/MID directive)
2. Two completely different authorities – Finanzamt (tax office) vs. Eichamt (weights and measures office)
3. Two completely different purposes – One ensures tax transparency, the other ensures consumers aren't cheated on weight-based pricing
I don't see any legal or logical connection where certifying the cash register for tax purposes would automatically certify the weighing system for trade use. These authorities don't even talk to each other.
MY SUSPICION ABOUT THE DOCUMENTATION CHANGE:
Looking at the diff between Odoo 17.0 and 18.0 docs – yes, they removed the explicit warning about France, Germany, and Switzerland. But removing a warning from documentation is not the same as obtaining certification. I suspect this was a commercial/marketing decision rather than a reflection of any legal change.
If Odoo actually got certified somewhere, I would expect:
- A proper announcement
- A certificate number we can reference
- Updated documentation that says "certified in X countries" rather than just removing the negative statement
MY POSITION FOR CUSTOMERS:
Until I see an official certificate, I continue to advise customers in Germany to use the workaround: a standalone certified scale that prints labels with barcodes, which are then scanned into Odoo POS. Not elegant, but legally safe.
LOOKING FORWARD:
That said, I do think this whole situation is outdated for 2026. The current calibration laws were written for a world of standalone, unchanging devices – not cloud-connected, continuously updated software systems. I hope regulators will modernize this eventually, but that's a slow process.
Jan – if you have any concrete documentation or official statement that supports the "fiskaly = scale OK" theory, I'd genuinely love to see it. Maybe I'm missing something, and I'm always happy to be proven wrong if it means we can finally use integrated scales legally.
P.S.: Frederik, thanks for the hint about the Hamburg OCA Sprint – Jan-Marten, feel free to send me the details!
Best,Laurence Labusch Geschäftsführer lala@labiso.de www.labiso.de +49 1525 4291514 Labiso GmbH · Von-Seckendorff-Platz 1 · 97539 Wonfurt 🎙️ Der ERP-Stammtisch Podcast
Höre unseren Odoo Podcast auf deiner bevorzugten Plattform:
Apple Podcasts Spotify RTL+ Deezer Website
Am 26.01.2026 um 10:20 schrieb Frederik Kramer <frederik.kramer@initos.com>:Hi all,
well the latest i heard on this was from fellow Odooer Laurence Labusch (and his company Labiso GmbH). He has spent considerable time to narrow down that issue with the authorities and afaik it is still not allowed to use an electronic wheiging scale even if the POS itself is working according to the national standard which in Germany is implemented using fiskaly TSE unless the whole POS is certified with the weighing scale but maybe Laurence (which i am putting on copy can answer himself).
Best Frederik
P.S.: Jan-Marten maybe you can make Laurence aware of the Hamburg OCA Sprint ;-)
Am 26.01.26 um 10:12 schrieb Jan-Marten Veddeler:
My latest information (more a guess/feeling) from Odoo customer service (and some online research) on this was that if the POS is certified (like e.g. Odoo POS via fiscaly is in Germany), then the scale itself does not need to have an additional certification, and that this may explain why Odoo removed the below notice from its later documentation from v18 on
"Odoo is not certified in several countries, including France, Germany, and Switzerland. If you reside in one of these countries, you can still use a scale but without integration into your Odoo database. Alternatively, you can acquire a non-integrated certified scale that prints certified labels, which can then be scanned into your Odoo database."
Anyone has more clarity on this scale certification part in Germany or other EU countries?
Best
JanOn 1/26/2026 11:37 AM, hugues de keyzer wrote:
, to use a scale connected to a
--Jan-Marten Veddeler
+49 15158887067
j.veddeler@humanilog.org
linkedin.com/in/jmveddeler
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Tel.: Zentrale +49 40228686750
Post: Winsbergring 2 | 22525 Hamburg | Germany
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by Laurence Labusch - 09:11 - 4 Feb 2026 -
Re: Weighing scales
Hi all, thanks Frederik for looping me in – happy to share what I know. MY LAST OFFICIAL INFORMATION FROM ODOO: About a year ago (maybe a bit less), I was told by Odoo that they were in the certification process for scales in Paris. Since then: radio silence. Nothing public, no announcement, no certificate number, nothing I could show to a customer or an authority. So as far as I'm concerned, the certification status is still "pending" at best. WHAT THE GERMAN AUTHORITIES TOLD US: We had direct conversations with the Eichamt (weights and measures authority) here in Germany, and they were very clear: The ENTIRE SYSTEM needs to be certified and calibrated together: - The scale itself - The IoT box / communication layer - The POS hardware - The POS software All of it. As one integrated, sealed system. Now, if you know Odoo... that's almost impossible to achieve. Odoo's strength is flexibility – you can configure almost anything, install community modules, customize freely. And if you're on Odoo.sh or SaaS, you're getting continuous updates. That's the exact opposite of what calibration authorities want: a frozen, audited, unchangeable system. REGARDING JAN'S THEORY (FISKALY TSE = SCALE OK?): I would be EXTREMELY INTERESTED to hear more about what Jan found out, because frankly, I don't see how this could be correct. The fiskaly TSE certification and scale/weighing certification are: 1. Two completely different legal frameworks – TSE is about fiscal compliance (GoBD, KassenSichV), weighing is about legal metrology (MessEG, MessEV, NAWI/MID directive) 2. Two completely different authorities – Finanzamt (tax office) vs. Eichamt (weights and measures office) 3. Two completely different purposes – One ensures tax transparency, the other ensures consumers aren't cheated on weight-based pricing I don't see any legal or logical connection where certifying the cash register for tax purposes would automatically certify the weighing system for trade use. These authorities don't even talk to each other. MY SUSPICION ABOUT THE DOCUMENTATION CHANGE: Looking at the diff between Odoo 17.0 and 18.0 docs – yes, they removed the explicit warning about France, Germany, and Switzerland. But removing a warning from documentation is not the same as obtaining certification. I suspect this was a commercial/marketing decision rather than a reflection of any legal change. If Odoo actually got certified somewhere, I would expect: - A proper announcement - A certificate number we can reference - Updated documentation that says "certified in X countries" rather than just removing the negative statement MY POSITION FOR CUSTOMERS: Until I see an official certificate, I continue to advise customers in Germany to use the workaround: a standalone certified scale that prints labels with barcodes, which are then scanned into Odoo POS. Not elegant, but legally safe. LOOKING FORWARD: That said, I do think this whole situation is outdated for 2026. The current calibration laws were written for a world of standalone, unchanging devices – not cloud-connected, continuously updated software systems. I hope regulators will modernize this eventually, but that's a slow process. Jan – if you have any concrete documentation or official statement that supports the "fiskaly = scale OK" theory, I'd genuinely love to see it. Maybe I'm missing something, and I'm always happy to be proven wrong if it means we can finally use integrated scales legally. P.S.: Frederik, thanks for the hint about the Hamburg OCA Sprint – Jan-Marten, feel free to send me the details! Best regards, Laurence -- Laurence Labusch LABISO GmbH
by Laurence Labusch - 09:11 - 4 Feb 2026
