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Re: Odoo Migration Hackday at bloopark

by
InitOS GmbH, Frederik Kramer
- 07/11/2017 19:07:07 
Hi Nhomar, 

well i am not objecting against a very narrow focus on OpenUpgrade
(which is absolutely cool for the whole community) or anything else
(with limited functional scope) AND infact i am a huge supporter of
getting things done in an agile and fast (maybe also call it lean) way.

Neighter i'd like to make things bigger than they are. BUT what i'd
desperately avoid is having a first "OCA flagged code sprint" in
Germany (the home of SAP) attending a majority few valuable resources
from far (other European countries) and farer (lets put Mexico or
Venezuela as practical examples) but only one or two German partners
attending with no or very limited local impact / attention (visibility
and / or contribution wise) but only their dollars signs in the eyes

Although preparing everything nicely and with enough upfront time
doesn't necessarily limit this risk (of only few people attending or
the wrong attending) to zero, there is as substantial added value to
let a University (freedom of research) and a Capital City (public
organization) buy in to such an idea (an open international hacking
event for the good of a given society) and making sure they also spread
the word and give their support (visibility wise and maybe hopefully
with resources).

But ok, i got you point, i am gonna keep my feet on ground and try to
start the initiative in my circles first (whenever i find the time to
do so) and as i start to see traction among the idea (i'm gonna coming
up with a more concrete plan and idea after having taken the first
formal steps towards that goal).

I just want to clarify my point again. I am great lover of trying to
improve things continuously in order to take them to the next level AND
agile an small steps towards a higher goal. But a small hacking event
in Germany with only a few very focused local attendees should not be
mixed up with all the effort other communities (especially the Spanish
community) continuously and successfully do (for the good of us all).
I'd personally feel bad if people come from near and far to the home
soil of SAP and something that is less well organized as the last few
iterations of an OCA code sprint (Barcelona, Italy, LLN) would be
experienced by all of those people just because we falsy used the term
"Hackathon, Sprint" in relation with "Odoo and OCA" but not having
organized it well upfront to contribute to the very visibiliy of the
OCA as a community of internation partners that contribute.

Sorry for being exhaustive on the matter again but thats how i *very
personally* feel about it.

Kind regards

Frederik


Am Dienstag, den 07.11.2017, 17:32 +0000 schrieb Nhomar Hernández:
> @Frederick.
> 
> bloopark team is trying to focus their effort to achieve an specific
> goal, let's not try to make it bigger than what they are willing to
> contribute to **yet**.
> 
> -- @bloopark team.
> 
> I am worried about the branding only, try to not convert this event
> in a marketing event instead a real goal oriented event, for that we
> have other spaces (I am giving my vote of trust to you now).
> 
> IMHO you should contribute first to the normal flow inside OCA to be
> sure your team has the skills to follow the technical process (I
> can't find too much PR's from your team to OCA repositories, but I am
> sure I did not look well).
> 
> I like the idea of **stay little stay focused**
> 
> -- @bloopark team:
> 
> Can you invite, support at least 1 member of the team of
> PSC/openupgrade to your Sprint to be sure you have all the support
> and your work finish the sprint mergeable?
> 
> Regards, and all our support with that!
> 
> Nhomar Hernandez
> CEO Vauxoo.
> Site: http://vauxoo.com
> Twitter: @nhomar
> Blog: http://nhomar.com
> Github User: https://github.com/nhomar
> Odoo Gold Partner
> Skype: nhomar00 (Envia mail previo no lo superviso siempre).
> HangOut: nhomar@vauxoo.com
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> 
> On Tue, Nov 7, 2017 at 9:47 AM, Frederik Kramer <frederik.kramer@init
> os.com> wrote:
> > Hi Jens, 
> > 
> > great idea, but shouldn't we try to organize a larger code sprint
> > such
> > as the ones that took place in Italy, Spain and Bruxelles also here
> > in
> > Germany throughout 2018. 
> > 
> > I think the German OCA community (which is mostly non existing /
> > exceptions prove the rule) is desperately due to organize such as
> > thing
> > given the presumed size of the Odoo market in Germany. 
> > 
> > I'd be happy to motivate my contacts to my Alma Mater to buy into
> > that
> > as well but that needs some time and effort to convince staff,
> > professors and people. Having said this, there are basically three
> > alternatives i have in mind
> > 
> > 1.) just doing a one day workshops as suggested by you (and leave
> > my
> > idea for late 2018 or later)
> > 2.) doing both a little one this year and a larger one (real code
> > sprint) next year (risking that not to many folks from Europe an
> > oversees attend)
> > 3.) Combining force (you and me) and planning ahead for a code
> > sprint
> > at the OVGU in 2018
> > 
> > What do you think and of course what to other folks and OCA fellows
> > think. Again i would be loving to host the first German sprint in 
> > the capital of Saxony-Anhalt, Magdeburg but that needs some
> > planning
> > ahead.
> > 
> > Kind regards
> > 
> > Frederik
> > 
> > Am Dienstag, den 07.11.2017, 14:31 +0000 schrieb Jens Holze:
> > > Dear Community,
> > > 
> > > first of all, we are happy to support the OCA as a gold sponsor
> > and
> > > hopefully on a lot of coming events as well. 
> > > 
> > > Because we have a lot of freedom in one of our biggest odoo
> > projects,
> > > we plan to have a OpenUpgrade hack-day to continue with the stuff
> > we
> > > started before the odoo experience event. We will have around 5
> > > developers in the team and maybe some of you guys want to join. 
> > > 
> > > It would be really nice of someone can join, even remote. We
> > could
> > > also setup a chat channel to discuss or have a hangout in the
> > morning
> > > to define who will work on what. 
> > > 
> > > Best and guys have a nice day
> > > 
> > > -- 
> > > Jens Holze
> > > CEO bloopark systems 
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> > -- 
> > Dr.-Ing. Frederik Kramer
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> >         
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> >         
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> > 
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Dr.-Ing. Frederik Kramer
Geschäftsführer
        
initOS GmbH
An der Eisenbahn 1
21224 Rosengarten
        
Phone:  +49 4105 56156-12
Fax:    +49 4105 56156-10
Mobil:  +49 179 3901819
        
Email: frederik.kramer@initos.com
Web:   www.initos.com
        
Geschäftsführung:
Dr.-Ing. Frederik Kramer & Dipl.-Ing. (FH) Torsten Francke

Sitz der Gesellschaft: Rosengarten – Klecken
Amtsgericht Tostedt, HRB 205226
Steuer-Nr: 15/200/53247
USt-IdNr.: DE815580155

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