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Re: OCA module not showing in app store due to name conflict

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InitOS GmbH, Frederik Kramer
- 03/03/2017 08:48:20 
Eric that sounds like a real good plan. No lawsuit for the time being
but "Black Sheep Announcement"... Can you bring that idea forward in
the board meeting ?

Cheers from Germany

Frederik

Am Freitag, den 03.03.2017, 07:38 +0000 schrieb Eric Caudal:
> I wouldnot either. They have always worked with us in good faith.
> Problem is it is always better a bad agreement than a good
> lawsuits...
> All the more that we are probably talking few thousands euros profit
> (if it gets there...) while costs and risks in this kind of actions
> are unpredictable.
> 
> They look to be rather suspicious and a thorough analysis of their
> code from Odoo would easily lead to the right conclusions.
> 
>  I'd rather have the company properly warned or banned (temporarily
> or not) as an example from the apps store with the proper publicity
> towards counterfeiters.
> 
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> ------------------ Original ------------------
> From:  "Frederik Kramer"<frederik.kramer@initos.com>;
> Date:  Fri, Mar 3, 2017 03:08 PM
> To:  "Contributors"<contributors@odoo-community.org>;
> Subject:  Re: OCA module not showing in app store due to name
> conflict
>  
> I wouldn't include Odoo SA directly in the suit, since they
> "hopefully"
> didn't allow it by purpose, but i would tell them (as OCA) that i
> insist in having dependencies checked and suspicious modules
> automatically remove (or even better not allowed in the first place)
> and allow them to act before OCA hands in the law suit. However as an
> ordinary OCA member i'd also recommend to make up a law suit just to
> put an example. 
> 
> BTW: one of the best lawyers in the field is Dr. Till Jäger (co-
> founder 
> of ifross institute (http://www.ifross.org/personen). He and his guys
> at ifross a worldwide well known specialists on law with focus and
> free, libre and open source software.
> 
> Am Freitag, den 03.03.2017, 02:38 +0000 schrieb Graeme Gellatly:
> > Sorry but if its the same people its simple.  OCA needs to get a
> > lawyer/legal advice/SFLC involved and should expect all of the
> > proceeds from the sales of ripped off modules illegally licensed. 
> > Preferably with exemplaries and maybe consider joining Odoo SA to
> > that suit for allowing it in the first place. You'd expect by now a
> > company like this one would be banned forever.   I just checked
> that
> > companies modules and didn't find an original module.  Everything I
> > checked was either copied from an open source contributor or taken
> > from forum advice. (after 4 I gave up checking)
> > 
> > On Fri, Mar 3, 2017 at 2:08 PM, Eric Caudal <eric.caudal@elico-corp
> .c
> > om> wrote:
> > > If they already have a bot checking OCA dependencies, it is quite
> > > simple. Their algorithm should flag as well as suspicious the
> > > modules with commented OCA dependencies.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Eric Caudal - Sent from my mobile device
> > > 
> > > 
> > > -------- Original message --------
> > > From: David Lasley <dave@dlasley.net> 
> > > Date: 2017/03/03 02:23 (GMT+08:00) 
> > > To: Contributors <contributors@odoo-community.org> 
> > > Subject: Re: OCA module not showing in app store due to name
> > > conflict 
> > > 
> > > I opened a third ticket on website_faq after auditing their
> modules
> > > - it also has dependencies commented out.
> > > 
> > > I also requested a proactive audit by Odoo SA.
> > > 
> > > — Dave Lasley
> > > 
> > > > On Mar 2, 2017, at 10:08 AM, Jay Vora <vora.jay@serpentcs.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > Interestingly, that firm has sold many modules!
> > > > 
> > > > On Mar 2, 2017 11:23 PM, "David Lasley" <dave@dlasley.net>
> wrote:
> > > > > I went ahead and issued the reports, probably should have
> done
> > > > > that instead of just recommending.
> > > > > 
> > > > > I will update this thread with findings.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Note there are two independent issues opened, one for
> > > > > theme_louma and one for auth_verify_signup_email
> > > > > 
> > > > > — Dave Lasley
> > > > > 
> > > > > > On Mar 2, 2017, at 9:38 AM, David Lasley <dave@dlasley.net>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > I have had a few infringing apps removed from the store at
> > > > > > this point. I agree that Odoo SA needs some automation in
> > > > > > place, but they are also very receptive regarding this via
> > > > > > the apps@odoo.com email. 3-4 days and the modules were
> > > > > > confirmed as license violations & removed from the store. I
> > > > > > recommend we do the same here.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > — Dave Lasley
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > On Mar 2, 2017, at 12:23 AM, Sylvain GARANCHER
> (SYLEAM)  > > > > > lvain.garancher@syleam.fr> wrote:
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > According to someone that bought it, another module on
> apps
> > > > > > > from the same author (https://www.odoo.com/apps/themes/10
> .0
> > > > > > > /theme_louma/) contained OCA dependencies. This is
> > > > > > > forbidden, but these dependencies are commented to bypass
> > > > > > > Odoo's automated check.
> > > > > > > Here, the module has the same name, and the same
> > > > > > > description...
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > I think Odoo should double check all modules proposed by
> > > > > > > them.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Regards,
> > > > > > > Sylvain
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 2017-03-02 7:52 GMT+01:00 Mihai FEKETE <Mihai.FEKETE@forb
> io
> > > > > > > m.eu>:
> > > > > > > > Hi Yoshi,
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > >  
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > We had the same situation with hr_public_holidays, the
> > > > > > > > one from Oca was overwritten in Apps Store by one
> module
> > > > > > > > with the same name made from a partner, here we had
> > > > > > > > understanding from the partner and he removed the
> module
> > > > > > > > from apps, but here, since the code is not public to
> see
> > > > > > > > if they just copied it, this should be threated by Odoo
> > > > > > > > when they register the modules, since the same name
> > > > > > > > exists and authors are different…
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > >  
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Mihai Fekete
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > >  
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > From: Yoshi Tashiro [mailto:tashiro@roomsfor.hk] 
> > > > > > > > Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2017 8:23 AM
> > > > > > > > To: Contributors <contributors@odoo-community.org>
> > > > > > > > Subject: OCA module not showing in app store due to
> name
> > > > > > > > conflict
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > >  
> > > > > > > > Hello,
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > >  
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Just noticed that this module https://github.com/OCA/se
> rv
> > > > > > > > er-tools/tree/10.0/auth_signup_verify_email (for 10.0)
> > > > > > > > does not appear in the app store because of this
> > > > > > > > https://apps.openerp.com/apps/modules/10.0/auth_signup_
> ve
> > > > > > > > rify_email/.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > >  
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > They seem to share the same descriptions by
> coincidence… 
> > > > > > > > Wasn’t sure if the once that’s showing in the app store
> > > > > > > > was legitimate, but just thought I’d share.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > >  
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > ---
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Yoshi Tashiro
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > >  
> > > > > > > > 
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