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Re: Odoo -- Community v Enterprise Questions

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Therp, Tom Blauwendraat
- 30/01/2023 09:13:42
Hi charles! I dont see your personal email address, i think the list has obscured it. In any case my 2 cents:

- Some people on this list including me have their own Odoo integration company, implementing Odoo for their customers. The choice between Enterprise and Community is made on a case by case basis, sometimes based on rational arguments, sometimes just the wish of the customer. Some people will also just recommend Community for purist reasons: Enterprise is not open source.

- You can view Enterprise as a set of modules on top of community. So even when making a choice for one of the two, its possible to switch back and forth later.

- OCA is a volunteer effort, so if you want help from OCA members then you are also expected to contribute something back. If you are unable to do that its best to just choose an Odoo partner company (of course the best choice is a partner that is also active in OCA:) and pay them to be your first go-to contact in all things Odoo and OCA.

- Part of what the OCA does is to provide a platform to synchronize efforts to make modules that make the Community edition feature-complete. An example is, in v16.0 Odoo has moved the bank statement reconciliation wizard to the Enterprise edition. Then, in OCA there comes a discussion and in the end a module that reimplements it. But sometimes you will also find efforts in OCA that enhance Odoo and will enhance Enterprise as well: bi_sql_editor or mis_reports module for example. So, in Enterprise, OCA is useful, but if you choose Community, you *need* OCA tools, if only for being able to upgrade (OCA OpenUpgrade project).

- If you want to be self reliant Community is a logical choice, but, its still possible to choose Enterprise but self-host it or have it hosted by a partner but have full access and control over it. You just need a partner because only partners have access to the Enterprise source code and can provide you with a license. We (as a partner) have a couple of such customers so its not uncommon.

- I sometimes end up advising customers against the use of Odoo, if their business is small and they dont have so much time or money. Odoo is powerful but especially upgrades can be time consuming so sometimes the investment is not worth the benefit and someone is better off just using a simple SaaS offering that is tailored to the purpose. On the other hand such customers could still benefit from the "Odoo online" offering, where you get support and upgrades included in the monthly price.

These are just opinions, but maybe they can help you along.

Cheers!





Jan 30, 2023 02:47:44 Charles Gucker <notifications@odoo-community.org>:

Thank you for the responses.   I will speak with the sales folks, but
I'm generally a larger supporter of "rolling my own" and not being
subjected to unnecessary red tape and license fees, especially for our
use, my $dayjob might pay, just because they can.   Also, the issue
that I was running into is that I couldn't purchase the enterprise
license as a self hosted on a month to month basis, I must purchase
the yearly plan, which defeats the purpose of "trying it out" more
than just the two hour demo.  Just not convinced that it's worth the
money yet.

Another way to ask the original question, does anybody on this list
run the enterprise edition and if so, are you self-hosted, or making
use of Odoo's hosting ?   Feel free to respond directly if you don't
want to share with the list.

At the end of the day, I'll have to just install it and figure out the
specifics.

Thank you,
Charles

On Sun, Jan 29, 2023 at 7:34 PM Franklin Smith
<notifications@odoo-community.org> wrote:

>

> In addition to Odoo S.A. sales, you could work with an Odoo partner to have your questions about Enterprise answered.

>

> But any documentation you read regarding installation and tasks related to hosting Enterprise will (most likely) be compatible with Community (e.g. the addons startup parameter). There are many different Odoo modules available for use, including those from OCA and Odoo S.A. (Enterprise apps). And there's going to be some overlap between what options there are under the "free to use" and Enterprise modules. You can pick the installation and selection of modules that fit your use case. But if you want Enterprise modules, then you'll need an Enterprise license as already mentioned.

>

> You are correct that Odoo Enterprise (from Odoo S.A.) is licensed on a per user basis, but that environment can be hosted on-premise (your case), on Odoo on-line (cheaper hosting from Odoo S.A.) or with Odoo.sh (CI/CD option from Odoo S.A., also supports installation modules not published by Odoo S.A.)

>

> Regards,

> Franklin

> franklin@ridge.works

>

> On Sun, Jan 29, 2023 at 6:58 PM Dominique k <notifications@odoo-community.org> wrote:

>

> Hi Charles,

>

> The best place to get info on odoo enterprise is .. odoo sales :-)

> if you want to test drive it, you can register an online account, and they will contact you.

>

> To get odoo enterprise on a self hosted server, you need to get a license first.

>

> Cheers,

> Dominique

> dominique.k@elico-corp.com.sg

>

> On Mon, 30 Jan 2023 at 01:31, Charles Gucker <notifications@odoo-community.org> wrote:

>

> Greetings,

>

>        I'm new to the Odoo community.   I ran across Odoo while

> looking for a Point of Sale for my girlfriend's business (brick and

> mortar), but alas, we have been using GoHighLevel which has a lot of

> overlap with Odoo.   As a result, I was looking at the offerings from

> Odoo with respect to the community edition and the enterprise

> editions.   But from what I can tell, enterprise subscriptions must

> pay per user and Odoo.sh must host the deployment.

>

>       I wear a number of hats at a number of different companies, such

> as the requirement for my girlfriend's business below, a not for

> profit corporation, which could benefit greatly from efforts in Odoo,

> as well as my full time job, which could use Odoo as a cloud services

> provider for internal accounting and forecasting purposes.

>

>       All in all, I've been in the Internet industry for a long time

> and have my own cabinet in a well connected data center with plenty of

> compute and storage capabilities, so naturally, I would like to self

> host.   I spent a few hours trying to find Odoo resources, which is

> how I found my way here.  I also looked through the App directory, but

> I was having a hard time reconciling the App directory with the

> offerings included within the enterprise license.    Does anybody have

> a pointer to a URL, or documents, which go into any level of detail on

> how to create the enterprise experience in a self-hosted environment?

>   As a side note, I would like to whitelabel the URL for my

> girlfriend's business.   Further, I would want to nest multiple client

> instances within a deployment (for her clients' environments) and then

> be able to white label a specific clients environment, but that's a

> longer term vision.

>

>      Any help that could be provided to point me in the right

> direction would be greatly appreciated.    I see a lot of personal use

> cases for Odoo, but am struggling to see where the current lines have

> been drawn between enterprise and community.

>

> Thank you in advance,

> Charles

>

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