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Re: European Union One-Stop-Shop

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ClosingAp Open Source Integrators Europe, LDA, Daniel Reis
- 11/06/2021 12:20:36
Frederick, Monday 2 PM CET works for me.
Maria José is a certified accountant working with me, and she can join too.
Yo may want to share a meeting link, I could also do that if you prefer.

Harald, Discord is a good idea to keep the discussion flow.
An initial discussion call would still be useful.

Thanks
Daniel

On 11/06/2021 09:27, Harald Panten Lopez wrote:
If there's no objection, I think we could use the accounting channel in the Discord for chatting. This will make the conversation more dynamic and we wouldn't bother other contributors.

WDYT?



El jue, 10 jun 2021 a las 16:52, Frederik Kramer (<frederik.kramer@initos.com>) escribió:
Hi folks, 

from our side my colleague Usama and I will collaborate on the matter.
Maybe it'll be nice to organise a small call next week to nail down the
scope of the generic part of the job. For instance i would suggest
Monday afternoon at 2pm. CEST if that fits you all well. We could set
up an host a small video call. Who would be interested ?

Best Frederik 

Am Donnerstag, den 10.06.2021, 14:42 +0000 schrieb Daniel Reis:


> Hello, thank you for bringing this up.


> 


> I am available to collaborate.


> 


> A basic thing to have is the full list of VAT rates and tax regions.


> There are up to three tax levels - standard, reduced and super


> reduced.


> And for example, Portugal has three tax regions - Mainland, Madeira


> and Azores. Spain also has something similar, and I'm sure it is not


> the only country.


> 


> I don't see a oca/l10n-europe repository.


> Should we have one, or just use one of the existing accounting


> relates repos, such as oca/account-fiscal-position ot oca/account-


> invoicing?


> 


> Thanks


> Daniel


> 


> On 10/06/2021 13:52, Sergio Corato wrote:


> > Hi all,


> > I was planning to use this module as a starting point: 


> > https://github.com/odoo/odoo/tree/14.0/addons/l10n_eu_service


> > So the standard italian report will clearly identify VAT by


> > country, the next step of sending data will be done by the advisor.


> > The selection of the fiscal position is so automated by country,


> > but not by B2C/B2B (little coding needed here).


> > What planned implementation would do?


> > Sergio Corato


> > 


> > 


> > Il giorno gio 10 giu 2021 alle ore 13:02 Harald Panten Lopez <


> > harald.panten@sygel.es> ha scritto:


> > > Hi Frederik, thank you for your prompt reply.


> > > 


> > > We were planning to divide the solutions in two steps.


> > > 


> > > Step 1: Tax mapping, difference between B2B and B2C... As you


> > > said, this can be general and common for all EU countries.


> > > 


> > > Step 2: Country localization reporting according the Spanish VAT


> > > laws. This one is going to be different.


> > > 


> > > Did you publish any PR where we could contribute? Our idea was to


> > > create a PR in fiscal-rule OCA repository.


> > > 


> > > El jue, 10 jun 2021 a las 12:42, Frederik Kramer (<


> > > frederik.kramer@initos.com>) escribió:


> > > > Hi Harald, 


> > > > 


> > > > yes this is what we are currently working on as well. However


> > > > even


> > > > after studying most of the law baseline in Germany there are a


> > > > couple


> > > > of questions we need to discuss with our tax adivsory.


> > > > 


> > > > For now it seems that pretty much everything concerning the per


> > > > use


> > > > case tax mapping (including country code selection base) and


> > > > differentiation between B2B and B2C use cases can be done with


> > > > configuration and little coding but as the OSS authority


> > > > collecting the


> > > > collected VAT is different in each member state and there seems


> > > > to be


> > > > NO common reporting standard format, for now we thing of


> > > > creating a


> > > > manual report that can than filled into the ELSTER portal (of


> > > > he German


> > > > authorities).


> > > > 


> > > > Maybe we could jointly start a list of open issues that need to


> > > > be


> > > > solve european wide. 


> > > > 


> > > > BTW: We only adresse B2B and B2C use cases with delivery from


> > > > member


> > > > state (germany) to member state (EU-27) and without IOSS market


> > > > place


> > > > special requirement or drop shipping via Amazon Global


> > > > fullfilment or


> > > > alike


> > > > 


> > > > Best Frederik


> > > > 


> > > > Am Donnerstag, den 10.06.2021, 10:27 +0000 schrieb Harald


> > > > Panten Lopez:


> > > > 


> > > > 


> > > > 


> > > > > Hi Community,


> > > > 


> > > > 


> > > > 


> > > > > 


> > > > 


> > > > 


> > > > 


> > > > > As you know, a major tax change will be implemented shortly


> > > > (1st of


> > > > 


> > > > 


> > > > 


> > > > > July) that will affect all EU countries.


> > > > 


> > > > 


> > > > 


> > > > > 


> > > > 


> > > > 


> > > > 


> > > > > More info:


> > > > 


> > > > 


> > > > 


> > > > > https://ec.europa.eu/taxation_customs/business/vat/oss_en


> > > > 


> > > > 


> > > > 


> > > > > 


> > > > 


> > > > 


> > > > 


> > > > > For the newest versions, (from V14) Odoo is planning a "kind


> > > > of


> > > > 


> > > > 


> > > > 


> > > > > solution", but what happens with older versions? Is any


> > > > European


> > > > 


> > > > 


> > > > 


> > > > > partner working on this?


> > > > 


> > > > 


> > > > 


> > > > > 


> > > > 


> > > > 


> > > > 


> > > > > Some of the Spanish partners started this project, and we


> > > > were


> > > > 


> > > > 


> > > > 


> > > > > wondering if anybody else will do the same. The main idea is


> > > > to "join


> > > > 


> > > > 


> > > > 


> > > > > our efforts" and offer a global solution according to the


> > > > ideology


> > > > 


> > > > 


> > > > 


> > > > > proposed by OCA.


> > > > 


> > > > 


> > > > 


> > > > > 


> > > > 


> > > > 


> > > > 


> > > > > Regards,


> > > > 


> > > > 


> > > > 


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initOS GmbH
An der Eisenbahn 1
21224 Rosengarten
        
Phone:  +49 4105 56156-12
Fax:    +49 4105 56156-10
Mobil:  +49 179 3901819
        
Email: frederik.kramer@initos.com
Web:   www.initos.com
        
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